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Team Liquid Light

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Luke, Mela, Goldy

  • Mela posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 5 months ago · View

  • Mela posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 5 months ago · View

    Last week’s blog post: http://www.idea9102.net/wp/archives/2734

  • Mela posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 5 months ago · View

    The other week’s blog post: http://www.idea9102.net/wp/archives/2674

  • Mela posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

  • Mela posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    Latest blog post update:
    http://www.idea9102.net/wp/archives/2048

  • Goldy Wu_8614 posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    I have succesfully joined the group~~ oh yeah~

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      Mela · 6 years, 6 months ago

      Yay :)

  • Goldy Wu_8614 joined the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light   6 years, 6 months ago · View

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Luke Hespanhol
    to Mela Sogono
    cc Goldy Wu
    date Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:58 PM
    subject Re: Interim Presentation

    Haha, yeah, fine!! Let’s copy the whole thread to the blog then. :-D

    Goldy, welcome back! Hope you did well on the paintball. About the concept, yes, the auras getting brighter will serve as metaphor for energy charging. But I would hold back from linking them to people’s mood, since, as Martin pointed out, it would be really trick to get that data accurately. It would also perhaps make the interaction a bit too complex, but we can discuss it further, if you wish.

    Luke

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Mela Sogono
    to Goldy Wu
    cc Luke Hespanhol
    date Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM
    subject Re: Interim Presentation

    BTW Luke, I’m fine with copying over the e-mails to the blog. Maybe we can just copy paste the entire threads so it’s not too much trouble copying it over… I don’t think we mentioned something incriminating in our e-mails anyway :P

    Mela

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Goldy Wu
    to Luke Hespanhol
    cc Mela Sogono
    date Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:19 AM
    subject RE: Interim Presentation

    Hey guys

    I finally finished reading all the emails u guys sent to me… I have been away…

    Anyway here are some of my thoughts

    1. I really like the idea of having different color for the aura which can represent different mood they are on. Having the aura grow bigger or more brighter could stands for energy storing? perhaps…

    2. Thanx Luke about the mock up. It will be great for our interim presentation

    3. About the Team’s name, ”Team Liquid Light” is great, and I have another name don’t know if u guys gonna like it or not… it’s ”Luminix” (Lumination… related to Energy Australia… maybe)
    I used this name for my group last year and it went pretty well… haha Should I check with my other Luminix guys first if they are fine with it… haha

    4. Here is Matin’s comment about the ”trace concept”:

    ”I really like the aesthetics of your sketches – simple and pretty. The lightning might be (as someone mentioned in another presentation I think) perceived as dangerous rather than charging :)
    How would you determine the mood of passers-by?
    Good to see you picked up the concept of familiar strangers that Jon presented. Have you seen the familiar strangers project by Eric Paulos: http://www.paulos.net/research/intel/familiarstranger/index.htm This could maybe be another inspiration to take your concept further.”

    Thanx guys… Have a great weekend… P.S I am going to paintball shooting tomorrow… Good luck to me…

    Again… Sorry for not replying the last thousand emails… haha

    Goldy

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    From: Luke Hespanhol
    Date: Friday, 29 April 2011
    Subject: Interim Presentation
    To: Mela Sogono
    Cc: Goldy Wu

    Thanks Mela for summarizing our progress so far – I agree with all you said. Yes, of course we should include your PSDs and, in fact, all our other sketches to illustrate the process we have been going through. Thanks for pointing that out. :)

    Considering your point below:

    > (the longer a person stays, do they get a bigger/bubblier aura? We can have this happen but there is a limit to what will be revealed…)
    >

    I don’t think the aura should get bigger… that might be confusing.
    Brighter, perhaps? In any case, more of the picture will be revealed by the increasing amount of bubbles the longer the person stays around.

    Also, what do you think of copying the text of some of our emails as a post in our Team’s blog space – just so that Martin, Deborah, Rob and Keir can be aware that we are actually discussing the project? No rush though, If you are OK with that I can do it next Monday, no problems.

    Luke

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Mela Sogono
    to Luke Hespanhol
    cc Goldy Wu
    date Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:39 PM
    subject Re: Interim Presentation

    Hi Luke, Goldy,

    I agree with your points.

    I think we can also include some of the PSD’s I created… hehe… just to show the thought processes that went into our ideation phase.

    Also from Martin’s e-mail:

    ”In addition to the details you had to cover in your idea presentations already (audience, relation to space, etc), we also expect you to briefly describe how you plan to implement your idea (ie the technology).”

    So I think some things we will be discussing would cover the following items (this will probably be combined from all of our presentations):

    a. target audience

    b. ideal viewing conditions

    c. fleshing out of the idea and symbolism behind it. This is what I’ve gathered from our e-mails so far:
    – presentation starts out with a dark-ish screen, like the dark aquarium, but traces of people appear on the screen and wave to the passersby to encourage them
    – when a person comes to the screen, he is surrounded by an aura (and aura bubbles)… the area illuminated by the aura displays the hidden photo underneath
    – (the longer a person stays, do they get a bigger/bubblier aura? We can have this happen but there is a limit to what will be revealed…)
    – the more people stay, the more the aquarium starts to bubble… auras combine and turn into golden aura and the entire photo is illuminated

    d. technology (oooh this is a big one). I think we were talking about using a Kinect, were there any other technological things we discussed?

    Mela

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Luke Hespanhol
    to Mela Sogono, Goldy Wu
    date Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:11 PM
    subject Interim Presentation

    Hi Goldy, Mela,

    I’m having a short break until next Sunday with limited Internet connection. I can read emails but unfortunately won’t be able to do much before Monday.

    I guess we have a solid idea taking shape here – essentially, the concept me and Mela have been discussing in the past few days combined with the aesthetics from Goldy’s original presentation for the energy bonds. Also, Mela suggested a very nice addition: given that auras can (apparently!) have different colours meaning different levels of purity, the auras of the people interacting with our artwork coils also have different colours and, when combined, merge into another towards the purest one – the golden aura. The same could potentially be reflected on the colours for the bubbles spun off the auras, through which the background photo could be glimpsed.

    Considering Martin’s latest email about the Interim Presentation, I reckon we could go with:

    a. A storyboard for our combined concept;
    b. The mock up Processing prototype I developed to illustrate the interaction with the bubbles, complementing the storyboard;
    c. Any other graphical material you guys consider interesting go support the presentation of our idea.

    What do you think? Goldy, since we will probably be basing our aesthetics on your original idea – would you be able to adapt your storyboard to reflect our new concept? If possible, that would be great! :)

    Cheers,
    Luke

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Luke Hespanhol
    to Mela Sogono
    cc Goldy Wu
    date Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:43 PM
    subject Re: Groups for Installation Studio

    Yes, absolutely. Actually, we have a couple of issues here:

    a. The SmartSlab has an aspect ratio of 3:1 (600×200 resolution) which is already hard to fit photos on. It can be done, of course, but more likely we will need to scale and then crop the photo to get it to the right size (that’s what I’ve done in the Processing prototype I sent earlier).

    b. The Grid Gallery is even worse – aspect ratio 15:1!!! So to fit a single image there will be really cumbersome, even if it is a panoramic photo (aspect ratios for panoramic photos vary from 4:1 to 10:1). What we could do then is maybe to line up 5 photos on the Grid Gallery, each with an aspect ratio of 3:1 – which is the ratio for the SmartSlab.

    In other words, our demo on the SmartSlab would show 1/5 of what people would see on the Grid Gallery… all the rest, as you pointed out, would really be identical. What do you think?

    In any case, we should definitely bring this up on the Interim Presentation, as this is one of the technical aspects Martin has referred to.

    Luke

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Mela Sogono
    to Luke Hespanhol
    cc Goldy Wu
    date Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:35 PM
    subject Re: Groups for Installation Studio

    I also realized — I wonder if it’s going to be a big issue since we’re going to be designing for screens with two very different resolutions? I think the part with the aura will be more or less the same code… but I’m just thinking the background image we choose will be very different with regards to the resolution. Or maybe that’s one thing we can also bring up in the interim presentation…

    Mela

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Luke Hespanhol
    to Mela Sogono
    cc Goldy Wu
    date Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:34 PM
    subject Re: Groups for Installation Studio

    Yep, I do think having a human outline for the auras will make the interaction more intuitive. So the auras themselves could mirror the silhouettes of the people interacting with the screen and the bubbles (real, round bubbly bubble-like bubbles :) would sort of come off them. I was thinking of the auras as a hot incandescent metal which, when in contact with water, cause it to boil and make lots of bubbles to appear.

    Regarding the Kinect, I am pretty sure it can recognise any kind of movement – although most people program the interaction to be based on hand movements, like this one:

    http://vimeo.com/18750684

    The way I understand it, the Kinect creates a depth image (using an infra-red camera), which allows us to capture anything moving anywhere in the area near the screen. And – from speaking to Didit – I am quite sure we can also set thresholds for the area we would be interested on. So, let’s say, we could configure it to only identify the area from the screen to the pathway, so that the cars don’t interfere with the interaction.

    Having said that, I really liked your idea of having the ”trace” auras waving to the passersby, as if inviting them to come closer. I think it kind of sets a very personal tone to the experience, someone reaching out for connection, which is more or less what we are after. Let’s go ahead with that!

    Luke

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Mela Sogono
    to Luke Hespanhol
    cc Goldy Wu
    date Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:23 PM
    subject Re: Groups for Installation Studio

    Oops just replied to the other e-mail before reading this in full — looks like you did get my suggestion.

    ”So perhaps the image would be seen through both the bubbles and the people’s silhouettes. Same for the halos linking each two people in the place – rays of energy, radiating light and creating small bubbles around it. Attached is a quick sketch I made on pencil & paper, illustrating what I am trying to say here (note the Kinect at the top). :)”

    I remember Martin/Rob saying that the Kinect recognizes you when you wave to it? Do you know if this is true for all cases or if it can just recognize movement without waving? Otherwise a suggestion I thought of was to have the ”trace” auras wave, maybe — in a way signalling to the passersby to wave back and so be recognized by the system.

    Mela

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Luke Hespanhol
    to Mela Sogono
    cc Goldy Wu
    date Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:07 PM
    subject Re: Aura bubbles prototype + group name

    Thanks Mela for stepping up and creating the group!! I’ve already joined in – Goldy, you need to do the same.

    I love your idea of people with different aura colours getting together and ”purifying” their energy towards the golden one – that’s really great! Of course I had no idea about the different meanings of colours when it comes to auras, haha!! Thanks for the diagram! :-) And it does serves us very well, adding yet another dimension to the
    experience.

    I also liked Goldy’s aesthetics for the energy bonds, they were really beautiful. Locked in. :-D

    Luke

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Mela Sogono
    to Luke Hespanhol
    cc Goldy Wu
    date Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:19 PM
    subject Re: Aura bubbles prototype + group name

    Hi Luke, Goldy,

    wow this is amazing! Thanks for mocking this up. And I’m fine with the team name being ”Team Liquid Light.” I went ahead and made a group here, not so sure how to add people to it? I think you guys will have to request to join it?

    http://www.idea9102.net/wp/groups/team-liquid-light/

    I’d also like to bring up the shape of the aura bubbles being circular (and very bubble-y) versus having the outline of the person? I think the concept of the auras ”bubbling up” is stronger if they’re circles, but the connection between the person and energy may be better communicated by using outlines.

    Also, did you know that in the concept of auras, different colors mean different things? :P I think the ”purest” form of aura is the golden aura. Maybe this is something we can also incorporate in the colors. People can have different colored auras but when they’re combined and started bubbling they can move towards the purest colored auras.

    http://www.reiki-for-holistic-health.com/auracolormeanings.html

    I really like the energy bonds that Goldy showed — I think we can more or less stick to that visually, and I envision it’ll look really good with what we’ve done so far :P

    Mela

  • Luke Hespanhol posted an update in the group AvatarTeam Liquid Light:   6 years, 6 months ago · View

    from Luke Hespanhol
    to Mela Sogono, Goldy Wu
    date Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:00 PM
    subject Aura bubbles prototype + group name

    Hi Mela, Goldy,

    I put together a quick Processing prototype (attached zip file) demonstrating how the aura bubbles could work and look like. It is by no means a final version, just a way of better visualising the interaction we were discussing. I represented the aura as a white spot of light which follows the mouse cursor. The bubbles, in turn, follow
    the aura and increase in quantity overtime, allowing you to glimpse the picture in the background. After a minute or so, the tank boils over (not visually represented in this sketch) and the background photo is fully displayed.

    Of course, in the final version the auras would be identified with the Kinect, plus we would still need to work on the ”energy bonds” between each two auras in the picture. The overall aesthetics also surely still have a lot of room for improvement.

    If you agree, maybe we could show this prototype in class next week as part of our Interim presentation – perhaps it would help everyone to have a better idea of that aspect of our concept.

    Another important thing: we need to create our group in the blog!! :-)

    What name do you think we should adopt?? My best suggestion so far is ”Team Liquid Light”. :-D

    Please let me know what you think.

    Cheers,
    Luke

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